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	<title>Comments on: GD Star Rating 1.7.7</title>
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		<title>By: VikingBrent</title>
		<link>http://www.gdstarrating.com/2009/11/23/gd-star-rating-1-7-7/comment-page-1/#comment-5687</link>
		<dc:creator>VikingBrent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 05:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too would love to get the comment widget working with thumb ratings. Can you give us any additional info if this is planned for a future release, ETA, etc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too would love to get the comment widget working with thumb ratings. Can you give us any additional info if this is planned for a future release, ETA, etc?</p>
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		<title>By: Anwar Wilkerson</title>
		<link>http://www.gdstarrating.com/2009/11/23/gd-star-rating-1-7-7/comment-page-1/#comment-5637</link>
		<dc:creator>Anwar Wilkerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for replying.  I read it and I see that this problem is do to a change in standards concerning Memory usage in the PHP configurations vs. WP recent upgrade. My config is for 32M and I have sent in a request to my hosting service to see if I can get that changed.  **Crosses fingers**.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for replying.  I read it and I see that this problem is do to a change in standards concerning Memory usage in the PHP configurations vs. WP recent upgrade. My config is for 32M and I have sent in a request to my hosting service to see if I can get that changed.  **Crosses fingers**.</p>
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		<title>By: MillaN</title>
		<link>http://www.gdstarrating.com/2009/11/23/gd-star-rating-1-7-7/comment-page-1/#comment-5636</link>
		<dc:creator>MillaN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go to FAQ page and read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go to FAQ page and read it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anwar Wilkerson</title>
		<link>http://www.gdstarrating.com/2009/11/23/gd-star-rating-1-7-7/comment-page-1/#comment-5635</link>
		<dc:creator>Anwar Wilkerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the recent error I get when this plugin is installed on the blog now.  This error shows up on the admin dashboard and allows nothing to load past it.

Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 42292 bytes) in /home/.../public_html/0.0.1/wp-includes/theme.php on line 180</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the recent error I get when this plugin is installed on the blog now.  This error shows up on the admin dashboard and allows nothing to load past it.</p>
<p>Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 42292 bytes) in /home/&#8230;/public_html/0.0.1/wp-includes/theme.php on line 180</p>
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		<title>By: Anwar Wilkerson</title>
		<link>http://www.gdstarrating.com/2009/11/23/gd-star-rating-1-7-7/comment-page-1/#comment-5632</link>
		<dc:creator>Anwar Wilkerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 05:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi I really like this plugin and a friend and I was going to use it on a site we made for rating video games. At one time it was working but we kept getting this error called the Fatal Error on our site in the admin panel.  At first it was just affecting the wordpress content i.e development blog, incoming links, plugin suggestion areas.  After disabling it I notice the site ran fine no Fatal Errors. So I though I would do a clean install and try to get it working again.  But this made things worst and we kept getting the fatal error stating that memory was being exhausted.  After a while the plugin ate the majority of the admin panel with this error, and the error would even show up on the blog itself.  After a lot of frustration I gave up and reinstalled wordpress completely with the plugins I wanted, including GD Star ratings.  Now when I try to activate the plugin I get the following error message in the plugin portion of the admin panel. 

Error Message: Plugin could not be activated because it triggered a fatal error.

Apparently I&#039;m either using a plugin that conflicts with yours or maybe the theme conflicts.  Its a problem I can not fix and I was wondering if it has been encounter by other WP users before?

The site url is www.ig-db.com/0.0.1/
I use the following plugins
Twitter Tools
Mingle
Disqus
Sociable
RPX
Simple Tags
Easy Adsense Redux
The theme is Suffussion

If you can help that would be appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi I really like this plugin and a friend and I was going to use it on a site we made for rating video games. At one time it was working but we kept getting this error called the Fatal Error on our site in the admin panel.  At first it was just affecting the wordpress content i.e development blog, incoming links, plugin suggestion areas.  After disabling it I notice the site ran fine no Fatal Errors. So I though I would do a clean install and try to get it working again.  But this made things worst and we kept getting the fatal error stating that memory was being exhausted.  After a while the plugin ate the majority of the admin panel with this error, and the error would even show up on the blog itself.  After a lot of frustration I gave up and reinstalled wordpress completely with the plugins I wanted, including GD Star ratings.  Now when I try to activate the plugin I get the following error message in the plugin portion of the admin panel. </p>
<p>Error Message: Plugin could not be activated because it triggered a fatal error.</p>
<p>Apparently I&#8217;m either using a plugin that conflicts with yours or maybe the theme conflicts.  Its a problem I can not fix and I was wondering if it has been encounter by other WP users before?</p>
<p>The site url is <a href="http://www.ig-db.com/0.0.1/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ig-db.com/0.0.1/</a><br />
I use the following plugins<br />
Twitter Tools<br />
Mingle<br />
Disqus<br />
Sociable<br />
RPX<br />
Simple Tags<br />
Easy Adsense Redux<br />
The theme is Suffussion</p>
<p>If you can help that would be appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.gdstarrating.com/2009/11/23/gd-star-rating-1-7-7/comment-page-1/#comment-5628</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where would I be able to find these logs? And why would this be in the server logs if it&#039;s just related to the theme and plugin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where would I be able to find these logs? And why would this be in the server logs if it&#8217;s just related to the theme and plugin?</p>
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		<title>By: MillaN</title>
		<link>http://www.gdstarrating.com/2009/11/23/gd-star-rating-1-7-7/comment-page-1/#comment-5627</link>
		<dc:creator>MillaN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both these are on the implementation list, but I don&#039;t have much time for that so I can&#039;t say when this will be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both these are on the implementation list, but I don&#8217;t have much time for that so I can&#8217;t say when this will be done.</p>
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		<title>By: MillaN</title>
		<link>http://www.gdstarrating.com/2009/11/23/gd-star-rating-1-7-7/comment-page-1/#comment-5626</link>
		<dc:creator>MillaN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever the problem is, there is an error behind it. So, give me the error and I may be able to help. Check your server logs for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever the problem is, there is an error behind it. So, give me the error and I may be able to help. Check your server logs for it.</p>
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		<title>By: MillaN</title>
		<link>http://www.gdstarrating.com/2009/11/23/gd-star-rating-1-7-7/comment-page-1/#comment-5625</link>
		<dc:creator>MillaN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It works just fine. But in your case you are missing jQuery. Since plugin is adding loader for jQuery also, that means that something is un-loading it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It works just fine. But in your case you are missing jQuery. Since plugin is adding loader for jQuery also, that means that something is un-loading it.</p>
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		<title>By: Spel</title>
		<link>http://www.gdstarrating.com/2009/11/23/gd-star-rating-1-7-7/comment-page-1/#comment-5620</link>
		<dc:creator>Spel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plugin je interesantan - ali postoji jedan problem, koji ja do sada nisam uspeo da resim - u pitanju je sledece.

Pojavi se lik koji dodje i koga ne przi da isklikce na dosta tema po jednu zvezdicu - to je prosto malo bezveze. Mislim da bi se trebala uvesti mogucnost da se npr kaze - da se sa jednog unikatnog IP-a ne moze glasati vise od jednom u 5 ili 10 minuta, i kad neko pokusada da glasa, da bude obavesten da postoji ogranicenje koje mu istice - za npr toliko i toliko minuta- to je jedan od predloga.

Drugi predlog je da se samo registrovanim clanovima omoguci glasanje - znaci da se glasanje vidi, ali da se prilikom pokusaja da se glasa a ako doticni nije ulogovan, moze pojaviti odredjena poruka koja bi ga usmerila na registraciju

Znaci eto to su moja razmisljanja - nadam se da su razumna i da ne predstavljaju prevelik napor vezano za implementaciju.

Trebalo bi uvesti jednu doatnu stranu na kojoj bi se izmedju ostalog mogle nalaziti ove dve mogucnosti sa svojim opcijama 

znaci - vreme u minutama koje moze da se izabere (5,10,20,30,60 minuta npr), sa mogucnoscu da se upise tekstualna poruka koja ce onome ko zeli da glasa, biti prikazana - time se omogucava upisivanje teksta na razlicitim jezicima - normalno tajmer se ne menja i on se dodaje posle te poruke - tajmer koji odbrojava.

Mogucnost za izbor - ko moze da glasa - gosti, ulogovani clanovi i/ili nesto slicno.

Pozdrav i nadam se nekom skorom odgovoru

Spel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plugin je interesantan &#8211; ali postoji jedan problem, koji ja do sada nisam uspeo da resim &#8211; u pitanju je sledece.</p>
<p>Pojavi se lik koji dodje i koga ne przi da isklikce na dosta tema po jednu zvezdicu &#8211; to je prosto malo bezveze. Mislim da bi se trebala uvesti mogucnost da se npr kaze &#8211; da se sa jednog unikatnog IP-a ne moze glasati vise od jednom u 5 ili 10 minuta, i kad neko pokusada da glasa, da bude obavesten da postoji ogranicenje koje mu istice &#8211; za npr toliko i toliko minuta- to je jedan od predloga.</p>
<p>Drugi predlog je da se samo registrovanim clanovima omoguci glasanje &#8211; znaci da se glasanje vidi, ali da se prilikom pokusaja da se glasa a ako doticni nije ulogovan, moze pojaviti odredjena poruka koja bi ga usmerila na registraciju</p>
<p>Znaci eto to su moja razmisljanja &#8211; nadam se da su razumna i da ne predstavljaju prevelik napor vezano za implementaciju.</p>
<p>Trebalo bi uvesti jednu doatnu stranu na kojoj bi se izmedju ostalog mogle nalaziti ove dve mogucnosti sa svojim opcijama </p>
<p>znaci &#8211; vreme u minutama koje moze da se izabere (5,10,20,30,60 minuta npr), sa mogucnoscu da se upise tekstualna poruka koja ce onome ko zeli da glasa, biti prikazana &#8211; time se omogucava upisivanje teksta na razlicitim jezicima &#8211; normalno tajmer se ne menja i on se dodaje posle te poruke &#8211; tajmer koji odbrojava.</p>
<p>Mogucnost za izbor &#8211; ko moze da glasa &#8211; gosti, ulogovani clanovi i/ili nesto slicno.</p>
<p>Pozdrav i nadam se nekom skorom odgovoru</p>
<p>Spel</p>
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		<title>By: neo</title>
		<link>http://www.gdstarrating.com/2009/11/23/gd-star-rating-1-7-7/comment-page-1/#comment-5599</link>
		<dc:creator>neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cannot voting, I get error message below:

Uncaught ReferenceError: jQuery is not defined               /wp-content/plugins/gd-star-rating/script.js.php?ver=1.7.7:106

[cycle] terminating;  /wp-content/themes/arras-theme/js/jquery.cycle.all.min.js?ver=2.8.6:16[cycle] terminating; zero elements found by selector

and also seems not support IE6</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cannot voting, I get error message below:</p>
<p>Uncaught ReferenceError: jQuery is not defined               /wp-content/plugins/gd-star-rating/script.js.php?ver=1.7.7:106</p>
<p>[cycle] terminating;  /wp-content/themes/arras-theme/js/jquery.cycle.all.min.js?ver=2.8.6:16[cycle] terminating; zero elements found by selector</p>
<p>and also seems not support IE6</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.gdstarrating.com/2009/11/23/gd-star-rating-1-7-7/comment-page-1/#comment-5596</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just installed the most awesome rating plugin there is - &quot;GD Star Rating&quot; ;-) But unfortunately I have a problems with it or my theme does. 

Once I activate my the plugin in my theme silveroak it breaks my theme as you can see here: http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9192/themebreak.png

If I deactive the plugin, the frontpage looks fine:          http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3782/nothemebreak.png

I tried this with a clean install and always tracked it back to the rating plugin. There are no other conflicting plugins. 

It&#039;s &quot;just&quot; the front page that breaks. 

My footer.php also has the  in it. Here&#039;s the link to my site if that helps: http://www.rucksacktravel.com

Anyone know how to fix this or what the problem could be? I don&#039;t know if this is relevant, but my theme does not include a archives.php. 

My webhost should also run the most current versions of PHP and MySQL (MySQL version: 5.0.85-community and PHP version: 5.2.9) etc. (downtownhost). So that can also be excluded as a possible source for the problem.

Maybe it&#039;s a JS conflict? I&#039;ll be happy to provide login details if this helps any. Right now there&#039;s just demo content on my site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just installed the most awesome rating plugin there is &#8211; &#8220;GD Star Rating&#8221; <img src='http://www.gdstarrating.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  But unfortunately I have a problems with it or my theme does. </p>
<p>Once I activate my the plugin in my theme silveroak it breaks my theme as you can see here: <a href="http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9192/themebreak.png" rel="nofollow">http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9192/themebreak.png</a></p>
<p>If I deactive the plugin, the frontpage looks fine:          <a href="http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3782/nothemebreak.png" rel="nofollow">http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3782/nothemebreak.png</a></p>
<p>I tried this with a clean install and always tracked it back to the rating plugin. There are no other conflicting plugins. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s &#8220;just&#8221; the front page that breaks. </p>
<p>My footer.php also has the  in it. Here&#8217;s the link to my site if that helps: <a href="http://www.rucksacktravel.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.rucksacktravel.com</a></p>
<p>Anyone know how to fix this or what the problem could be? I don&#8217;t know if this is relevant, but my theme does not include a archives.php. </p>
<p>My webhost should also run the most current versions of PHP and MySQL (MySQL version: 5.0.85-community and PHP version: 5.2.9) etc. (downtownhost). So that can also be excluded as a possible source for the problem.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s a JS conflict? I&#8217;ll be happy to provide login details if this helps any. Right now there&#8217;s just demo content on my site.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://www.gdstarrating.com/2009/11/23/gd-star-rating-1-7-7/comment-page-1/#comment-5593</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the answer. I will try to work something out of that.

If only my programming skills would be better... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the answer. I will try to work something out of that.</p>
<p>If only my programming skills would be better&#8230; <img src='http://www.gdstarrating.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MillaN</title>
		<link>http://www.gdstarrating.com/2009/11/23/gd-star-rating-1-7-7/comment-page-1/#comment-5590</link>
		<dc:creator>MillaN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything that can be done with posts, can be done with pages (within WordPress limitations). Maybe there is no direct way for exactly what you need, but provided functions allows you to get all kinds of ratings based on id&#039;s, so you can use those to get what you need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything that can be done with posts, can be done with pages (within WordPress limitations). Maybe there is no direct way for exactly what you need, but provided functions allows you to get all kinds of ratings based on id&#8217;s, so you can use those to get what you need.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://www.gdstarrating.com/2009/11/23/gd-star-rating-1-7-7/comment-page-1/#comment-5589</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Milan,

What about my question (about 3 posts up)?

It would be really nice. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Milan,</p>
<p>What about my question (about 3 posts up)?</p>
<p>It would be really nice. <img src='http://www.gdstarrating.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MillaN</title>
		<link>http://www.gdstarrating.com/2009/11/23/gd-star-rating-1-7-7/comment-page-1/#comment-5588</link>
		<dc:creator>MillaN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right now that can&#039;t be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now that can&#8217;t be done.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.gdstarrating.com/2009/11/23/gd-star-rating-1-7-7/comment-page-1/#comment-5586</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Millan, 
I&#039;m only using the thumbs, no stars, and I would like to have a page that displays the top 25 comments* based upon thumb votes. I&#039;ve played around with the builder to get the right shortcode but I can&#039;t seem to figure it out. Can you help me out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Millan,<br />
I&#8217;m only using the thumbs, no stars, and I would like to have a page that displays the top 25 comments* based upon thumb votes. I&#8217;ve played around with the builder to get the right shortcode but I can&#8217;t seem to figure it out. Can you help me out?</p>
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		<title>By: 15 Wordpress Plugin for Comment Section &#124; TechManch</title>
		<link>http://www.gdstarrating.com/2009/11/23/gd-star-rating-1-7-7/comment-page-1/#comment-5584</link>
		<dc:creator>15 Wordpress Plugin for Comment Section &#124; TechManch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 7. GD Star Rating [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 7. GD Star Rating [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.gdstarrating.com/2009/11/23/gd-star-rating-1-7-7/comment-page-1/#comment-5575</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the quick reply!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the quick reply!</p>
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		<title>By: MillaN</title>
		<link>http://www.gdstarrating.com/2009/11/23/gd-star-rating-1-7-7/comment-page-1/#comment-5573</link>
		<dc:creator>MillaN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GD Star Rating is fully compatible with latest WP 2.9 nightly build. And plugin has no use for comments meta table, so there is no need for additional integration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GD Star Rating is fully compatible with latest WP 2.9 nightly build. And plugin has no use for comments meta table, so there is no need for additional integration.</p>
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